Can quiet advocacy do the heavy lifting that loud politics can’t?

Jason sits down with Leanne Brooke, General Manager of The Long Walk, for a generous conversation about quiet advocacy, truth-telling, and the space where First Nations and rainbow communities meet. Leanne shares why “everyone is welcome around our campfire” isn’t just a line—it’s a practice: building safety, inviting the so-called “silent majority” into the room, and holding respectful disagreement without shutting people out.

From Michael Long’s walk to Canberra to school-yard smoking ceremonies and those slow, joyful walks that open Better Together, Leanne traces how patient, relational work shifts culture: teaching kids to listen, honouring Country, telling the full story of invasion and survival, and refusing the false choice between courage and kindness. This is advocacy that moves without shouting—and still moves the needle.

What hills are worth dying on in the fight for LGBTIQ+ rights?

In this episode, Jason sits down with Matt Beard, Executive Director of All Out, to wrestle with the tensions shaping today’s global movement. From the growing gap between professional organisations and the people they serve, to the backlash against hard-won rights, Matt doesn’t shy away from the messy questions:

How do we call people in instead of shutting them out? What does true liberation look like? And how do we face contested issues with courage, nuance, and honesty?

How does an atheist lesbian find common ground with conservative faith leaders?

In this episode, Jason speaks with longtime advocate Jac Tomlins about what four decades of campaigning have taught her — from rainbow families to marriage equality, to stepping into rooms with those seen as “the enemy.” Jac reflects on the toll of trauma in our community, why leading with pain can hold us back, and how healing ourselves changes the way we advocate.

From building trust with conservative faith leaders to redefining what it means to have a brave conversation, Jac shows why the most resistant spaces may also be the most important.

How might we create a more functional rainbow movement?

Jason sits down with Swedish activist Frank Berglund to explore what it means to create an expanding movement—one that isn’t stuck defending old structures but is brave enough to invite in new voices, fresh ideas, and different ways of being.

Frank shares candid reflections on fear, backlash, and the “lateral violence” that can tear communities apart. He also makes the case for intergenerational learning, meeting people outside our bubbles, and remembering that our history carries lessons for today.

This is a conversation about letting go of what no longer serves us and imagining what a bigger, more connected, more generous movement could look like.

Why is it harder to hate someone once you them?

In this episode, Jason speaks with Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner Ro Allen about the tough choices facing our movement today. From confronting the rise of violent tactics in activism to working with groups like the Australian Christian Lobby, Ro makes the case that lasting change only happens through dialogue, courage, and relationship — even when it feels impossible.

They share why vulnerability can be a superpower, why it’s harder to hate someone once you know them, and how building unlikely connections might be the key to moving forward.

Something brave is brewing.

We can’t wait to share it with you.

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